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[randomlegend]

Letting kids figure stuff out is hard when you are on top of them every second of their lives.

No interest in arguing semantics. We both know what I mean.

The issues outlined in that article such as not potty training and kids that can't communicate mostly come from the "gentle parenting" crowd.

It comes from a crowd who literally don't see it as their responsibility to teach their kids anything. They don't even try to teach them how to use a knife and fork or to potty train them because they believe it's the school's job.

"Teaching? School's job".

[randomlegend]

It's not a niche position either, it's extremely widespread. The numbers quoted in that article of children coming to school not being able to do these things are very typical.

I was recently in a Community Paediatrics clinic seeing a child who was speech delayed. Quickly became apparent the parents had no idea they needed to talk to their child and teach them to speak in order for them to be able to speak. Once it was pointed out to them that they did indeed need to do that, they said they could maybe do it once a month but basically isn't it our job to fix it?

[Spikey M]

https://i.ibb.co/qpm1bmC/FB-IMG-1717933413942.jpg

:happycry:

[Kikó]

Honestly don't understand that bullshit. You're the parent, you're in control. Break shit habits and be responsible.

[Spikey M]

Have a word with your mother, Lewis Ffs.

[Dquincy]

Is it not just that more things have been discovered? When I went to school literally no child was known as 'autistic' despite there being a few special cases. Now you just need to hold a pencil funny or have a strange accent and you've suddenly got one-to-one support in a special classroom and get to go for dinner 5 minutes before the 'normal' kids.


I work with an ex-primary school teacher and she says that ninety-five per cent of them are just twats with twat parents who never discipline them.

I think both of these are true to a certain extent. The irony is I'm sure my eldest (7 years old) is autistic and can be a bit of prick quite often. We have tried to be understanding of this (I initially tried the hard parenting route but it honestly made it worse). The added issue is the younger (5 year old) see the older sibling's behaviour and thinks that's the way to behave.

The issue with assessing Autism is that it's very subjective and dependent on the assessor. It's not like you can take a blood test to say they are or are not. This leads to a lot of parents claiming arsehole kids being autistic when they might not be. And yes I worry that might be said parent.

[Dquincy]

https://i.ibb.co/qpm1bmC/FB-IMG-1717933413942.jpg

:happycry:

:lol:

Should be getting the Birdseye ones, the peasant bastards.

[Spikey M]

I'm not sure I believe autism is even a thing, really. It's just a medical shrug like IBS or Fibromyalgia is. It's probably a mixture of birth defects, arsehole kids and just people with quirks.

Nobody can convince me Albert Einstein is in the same spectrum as a non-verbal kid screaming in a corner because their sandwich was cut into triangles.

[Lewis]

Similarly, the way AHDH was explained to me by a family friend whose job it is is to assess kids for it makes me think that you could parent a lot of it away. Okay you might have to find them outlets for all of their twitching, but on the impulsiveness side of it we all have 'intrusive thoughts', but you either learn from experience that acting on them has consequences, i.e. do that and your Mega Drive gets taken off you for a bit, or you are taught to reason them away.

[randomlegend]

I'm not sure I believe autism is even a thing, really. It's just a medical shrug like IBS or Fibromyalgia is. It's probably a mixture of birth defects, arsehole kids and just people with quirks.

Nobody can convince me Albert Einstein is in the same spectrum as a non-verbal kid screaming in a corner because their sandwich was cut into triangles.

It is definitely a thing,

[randomlegend]

Similarly, the way AHDH was explained to me by a family friend whose job it is is to assess kids for it makes me think that you could parent a lot of it away. Okay you might have to find them outlets for all of their twitching, but on the impulsiveness side of it we all have 'intrusive thoughts', but you either learn from experience that acting on them has consequences, i.e. do that and your Mega Drive gets taken off you for a bit, or you are taught to reason them away.

it's a lot more complicated than this and needs a much more individualised approach.

Some of them will simply not be able to comprehend the link between what they did, that it was wrong, and that what you did to them was consequence of what they did (for example).

Taking the child who can't understand's Mega Drive away doesn't achieve anything except making them turn your house upside down.

Some will understand the concept of consequences, therefore that strategy is useful.

Etc.

[Baz]

Why can’t they comprehend consequences?

[Dquincy]

It is definitely a thing,

It is a thing, but a thing which has a very wide spectrum. So I can understand Spikey's viewpoint.

I know a few parents who have gone private to get their kid diagnosed as autistic or ADHD. It cost them a few grand to get told what they wanted to hear. Some would say they paid to get the diagnosis they wanted. It has made sweet fuck all difference in school sadly. I think without an EHCP things will not change massively for them.

[Baz]

I know a few parents who have gone private to get their kid diagnosed as autistic or ADHD. It cost them a few grand to get told what they wanted to hear. Some would say they paid to get the diagnosis they wanted. It has made sweet fuck all difference in school sadly. I think without an EHCP things will not change massively for them.Aren’t you entitled to disability living allowance if you’ve a kid with “a diagnosis” though? Spend money to make money.

[Dquincy]

it's a lot more complicated than this and needs a much more individualised approach.

Some of them will simply not be able to comprehend the link between what they did, that it was wrong, and that what you did to them was consequence of what they did (for example).

Taking the child who can't understand's Mega Drive away doesn't achieve anything except making them turn your house upside down.

Some will understand the concept of consequences, therefore that strategy is useful.

Etc.

We've had this with our eldest. It's both infuriating and sad. You feel powerless. Not even a right uppercut made me feel better.

But even if a child is suspected as autistic, is him acting out each time caused by his 'condition' everytime, or are some because he's being a little dick. I think the latter.

[Dquincy]

Aren’t you entitled to disability living allowance if you’ve a kid with “a diagnosis” though? Spend money to make money.
I think so if you earn under a certain bracket. Probably why the inbred dosser families push for it.

[Pepe]

Things diagnosed via questionnaires can be "a thing," but they are not as much of "a thing" as, say, smallpox.

[Lewis]

Yeah follow the money. According to the website about how to claim ADHD gibs only two per cent of claimants are over fifty, and how many over fifties do you know that bounce off the walls and can't function?

[randomlegend]

Why can’t they comprehend consequences?

Because deficits in communication and understanding social interaction are a defining part of autism.

Depending on how significant their difficulties are in those areas will depend on whether and to what extent they can make a link between what they are doing and what then happens to them.

If a child is non-verbal and has very basic language processing skills, you may not be able to verbally explain to them that what they've done is wrong for X reason and therefore what you did is a consequence of that.

They may not be able to put themselves in another's shoes, therefore can't understand that taking something from someone or hitting them is wrong. They simply experience what they experience and have no comprehension that others also have experiences and that their actions can impact on those experiences of others.

I'm talking about autism here as opposed to ADHD.

Children with ADHD usually do have the skills to understand these sorts of social interactions, they simply have a brain which makes existing in the fairly inflexible constructs of normal societal expectations extremely difficult.

There are also many children who simply have shit parents or who are dickheads who have diagnoses because their parents paid for them.

[niko_cee]

It's also debatable whether it becoming, or being known as 'a thing' has had a generally positive or negative effect on the 'sufferer' or society more widely.

On the dead doctor thing, am I the only person that thought this sounded mega suspect when reported earlier:


A bar manager reportedly found the body after Symi's mayor told staff he "saw something" by the fence of the bar.

Oh, what's that over there?

[randomlegend]

Yeah follow the money. According to the website about how to claim ADHD gibs only two per cent of claimants are over fifty, and how many over fifties do you know that bounce off the walls and can't function?

They're probably just homeless or dead so you don't notice them.

[Lewis]

Starved to death when they got muscled out of selling the Big Issue by Romanian criminals.

[Pepe]

:lol:

[Pepe]

It's also debatable whether it becoming, or being known as 'a thing' has had a generally positive or negative effect on the 'sufferer' or society more widely.

Yeah. that's a big one, especially when the range of behaviours/people diagnosed is ever-expanding.

[Magic]

Aren’t you entitled to disability living allowance if you’ve a kid with “a diagnosis” though? Spend money to make money.

One of the Mrs pals gets disability for her two cunt children even though they've not been diagnosed with anything. Wild.

[Spikey M]

Starved to death when they got muscled out of selling the Big Issue by Romanian criminals.

:D

[randomlegend]

Yeah. that's a big one, especially when the range of behaviours/people diagnosed is ever-expanding.

As usual the answer is "it depends".

For children with severe autism or with actual ADHD? Yes, hugely beneficial to everyone.

For children who are probably autistic but have so far coped well in mainstream education and are unlikely to find it actually accesses any additional support for them? Perhaps not.

[Shindig]

Yeah. that's a big one, especially when the range of behaviours/people diagnosed is ever-expanding.

Some of those behaviours being synonymous with being a normal kid.

[Magic]

I think it's worth pointing out that childhood trauma presents quite similarly to neurodivergence. Never mind the fact that neurodivergent kids are far likelier to experience childhood trauma than NT kids.

It really does seem that not many people at all know how to be a parent and raise children well. I read that secure attachment covers about 50% of the population. I'd love to see what that figure is in 30 years' time.

[Magic]

Some of those behaviours being synonymous with being a normal kid.

That's absolutely untrue.

[Spikey M]

https://i.ibb.co/NjryGpX/v2fathers4justice.jpg

[Magic]

Not sure that's worked as intended. Did you understand my point?

[Spikey M]

Yes, psychoanalysis bollocks by people that say "red flag" every other word.

[niko_cee]

I understood less than 50% of that post. Secure attachment? NT?

[Yevrah]

Because deficits in communication and understanding social interaction are a defining part of autism.

But aren't those two things you'd exhibit if you've never been taught them properly? i.e. through piss poor parenting.

[Baz]

Speaking of piss poor parenting, potty training is due. Do you teach boys to sit down or stand up to wee? Whenever I sit him on the toilet he just wants to jump off and flush it. I feel like if I drop a ping pong ball in for him to wee at, he’ll just grab it and run off.

[Magic]

But aren't those two things you'd exhibit if you've never been taught them properly? i.e. through piss poor parenting.

It's not something that can be improved or taught.

[niko_cee]

That's a somewhat overly definitive statement.

An inability to understand nuance, subtlety or subtext. Are all Americans autistic?

[Dquincy]

It's not something that can be improved or taught.
This is true. I used to say that ours would grow out of his behaviours as he got older. But that is certainly not the case. Would also say he's more immature compared to others his age.

[Spikey M]

It's not something that can be improved or taught.

Red flag.

[Magic]

This is true. I used to say that ours would grow out of his behaviours as he got older. But that is certainly not the case. Would also say he's more immature compared to others his age.

Maybe you should have smacked him more or not over parented him?

[Dquincy]

Speaking of piss poor parenting, potty training is due. Do you teach boys to sit down or stand up to wee? Whenever I sit him on the toilet he just wants to jump off and flush it. I feel like if I drop a ping pong ball in for him to wee at, he’ll just grab it and run off.

We did sit down wees in the potty for ours. Once they get the hang of it and are more confident, they naturally know to stand with taking a pee.

[Spikey M]

We did sit down wee, but it only lasted about 6 weeks, then he wanted to wee standing up because I do. This was fine as long as he was using the toilet, but caused many messes when he was trying to aim at the potty.

[Giggles]

Rub it's nose in any spillages. Soon learn.

[Magic]

The Israelis have killed 274 Palestinians to rescue 4 hostages. Jeezo.

[niko_cee]

The Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza says . . .

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza says . . .

Even Israel are estimating around 100.

They also claimed racism when people suggested they were wrong to do it.

[Yevrah]

It's not something that can be improved or taught.

You can't improve or teach communication or social interaction skills? Okey dokey.

[Magic]

You can't improve or teach communication or social interaction skills? Okey dokey.

Not in someone with autism, which was so obviously the point I was making.

[Yevrah]

Not in someone with autism, which was so obviously the point I was making.

Well yeah and the point I'm making is that if those two things are the key signs then how does one know they just haven't been taught them properly as opposed to actually having a problem. Shitty parents = kid who can't communicate or interact properly = autism?*

*Obviously not in every case.

[Spikey M]

Not in someone with autism, which was so obviously the point I was making.

What's all this stuff I keep hearing about "masking" then?

[niko_cee]

Not in someone with autism, which was so obviously the point I was making.

How does this even work in that narrow field? I know people who are very clearly autistic in the modern sense [most also now have autistic children], but because autism simply didn't exist 30 years ago they weren't and have somehow been able to function and behave in society. Most were just statto types, but have adjusted into reasonably 'normal' people. How did they learn those 'skills'? Doesn't your theory necessitate thinking that no one can be taught to behave, either you innately know how to do it, or you don't? Seems like the number of people who can be categorically not taught communication or social interaction skills, to some extent, must be vanishingly small and not at all congruent with the group 'people who have autism'.

[Magic]

How does this even work in that narrow field? I know people who are very clearly autistic in the modern sense [most also now have autistic children], but because autism simply didn't exist 30 years ago they weren't and have somehow been able to function and behave in society. Most were just statto types, but have adjusted into reasonably 'normal' people. How did they learn those 'skills'? Doesn't your theory necessitate thinking that no one can be taught to behave, either you innately know how to do it, or you don't? Seems like the number of people who can be categorically not taught communication or social interaction skills, to some extent, must be vanishingly small and not at all congruent with the group 'people who have autism'.

There's three categorisations. Go educate yourself.

[Lewis]

Bit of a mong
Mong
Massive mong

[Magic]

Bit of a mong
Mong
Massive mong

Effectively. The point is you can't level up or gain xp.

[niko_cee]

There's three categorisations. Go educate yourself.

Three categoristaions of what?


Bit of a mong
Mong
Massive mong

4. Magic Mong.

[Pepe]

There's three categorisations. Go educate yourself.

Do you have some references he can check out?

[Magic]

Do you have some references he can check out?

:moop:

[Baz]

I feel like the fact that we’ve all hung around here so long puts every single one of us somewhere on the spectrum.

Do we need noise cancelling headphones at the cinema, a blanket to fidget with on plane journeys, and special seating arrangements in restaurants? Of course not.

Could we socialise with a stranger if stuck in a lift for an hour? I reckon so.

If you get your mega drive taken off you for drawing on the wall, would we destroy the house? Doubtful.

[randomlegend]

Well yeah and the point I'm making is that if those two things are the key signs then how does one know they just haven't been taught them properly as opposed to actually having a problem. Shitty parents = kid who can't communicate or interact properly = autism?*

*Obviously not in every case.

This is one of those things where I don't know how to explain it, but you do just know when you have a reasonable amount of experience interacting with lots of non-autistic and lots of autistic kids.

What Magic says it true, it is the fact they have very limited ability to learn or improve in these regards. Non-autistic children will pick much of this stuff up just by virtue of interacting with other people, even with useless parenting.

[randomlegend]

I feel like the fact that we’ve all hung around here so long puts every single one of us somewhere on the spectrum.



Yeah but you only think that because you have a poor understanding of what autism actually is.

[randomlegend]

What's all this stuff I keep hearing about "masking" then?

Some relatively able children with autism (usually girls for whatever reason) essentially learn to mimic the behaviour of others to fit in, but they don't really understand the behaviour.

[randomlegend]

How does this even work in that narrow field? I know people who are very clearly autistic in the modern sense [most also now have autistic children], but because autism simply didn't exist 30 years ago they weren't and have somehow been able to function and behave in society. Most were just statto types, but have adjusted into reasonably 'normal' people. How did they learn those 'skills'? Doesn't your theory necessitate thinking that no one can be taught to behave, either you innately know how to do it, or you don't? Seems like the number of people who can be categorically not taught communication or social interaction skills, to some extent, must be vanishingly small and not at all congruent with the group 'people who have autism'.

From the DSM-5 diagnostic criteria:


Symptoms cause clinically significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of current functioning.

I.e. if the limitations are not significant enough to cause functional impairment in life, then it doesn't meet the bar for an autism diagnosis.

[igor_balis]

I'm not sure what I think about the pros and cons of smacking, but I was absolutely fucked up by overly permissive parenting. Ten years ago I would have written angry essays on here explaining why you should treat kids like adults, give them plenty of freedom and just try to teach them fairly loose, abstract notions of right and wrong. Absolutely fucking not. It might work for some, but I'm pretty sure it was an absolutely disastrous decision by my rents, and didn't play an insignificant role in me being a total fuck up. Obviously it's mostly on me and my terrible decision making, but I do think structure and discipline is very important.

[niko_cee]

I would say that smacking is completely dying out, which is no bad thing, but then I probably have less insight into the matter now as a parent than I did as a kid, where you get to see/know if your mates got a hiding off their dad, which they often did. I would say that that rarely happens now.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I had loads of structure and discipline and now think I possibly should have had a bit more freedom. So it works both ways.

I got lightly smacked, only by my mum. I presume some dads were giving it the belt and so on in the same era.

[Lofty]

My mates were right little shits, probably ADHD by today's standards, and their dad used to give them the belt and the slipper. They used to coat their hands in vaseline to negate the impact :D

[thommo]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3ggww342w8o

I don't understand how you would make this error. Surely you're checking the board and whatnot to get the right flight?!

Couple of fantastic examples of "compo face" too. He couldn't even be bothered to pull his top down to hide his gut.

[Spikey M]

Staff not paying attention properly because their job is dull and they don't want to be there, understandably.

On the other hand, you have these divs, who are there by choice and have one job - to get on the right plane. If you manage to get on the wrong one, you are at fault.

[Jimmy Floyd]

During one of my many airport runs in the last year or so I was thinking about this - what would it take for one to actually get on the wrong plane. I thought of all the ways you could get confused and it could go to shit, but then I thought surely even then it's impossible because you have to scan your boarding card at the point when you actually go through the departure gate, and you would be picked up then.

Clearly I was wrong.

[Baz]

Yeah that’s slipped through a lot of nets somehow. I can’t imagine anyone arguing the airport/staff were more at fault than the idiots who ended up in Lithuania by accident, mind.

[Boydy]

It seems more like it was the special assistance folks' mistake than theirs, tbf. If you've got special assistance and they take you right to the plane, you'd expect them to take you to the right plane and probably not pay that much attention to it yourself.

They should really have noticed when the captain makes an announcement before departure though.

[Spikey M]

Ooooh, my names Boydy and I read further than the title of the article.

Some of us are pretending to work here mate

[Shindig]

It's still mad to see that go through at least three points of failure.

[Giggles]

Airports are the single reason I hate going anywhere.

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c722j41jyk1o

My inside sources are saying it's a pre-packaged sandwich. Step down from your meal deals, folks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz448dj4x8xo

The Oracle.

[Manc]

Natural selection.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Never again will TTH doubt my secret contacts, located at the very heart of the British health world.

[Lofty]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjll01220yeo

Baz in the mud.

[Ben]

That wouldn’t fly here.

[Baz]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjll01220yeo

Baz in the mud.
I’m a spreadsheet macro up a cell down a cell pro, thank you very much.

[Spikey M]

Giggles has been suspiciously quiet since his WFH announcement.

Wanking himself into oblivion like the rest of us did during the novelty stage, I imagine.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I regret to report that we are back into animal news silly season.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd11p105wv4o

It's a fucking cow. It doesn't have a name. Grow up.

[Baz]

Can tell you’ve not watched Clarkson’s Farm.

[Waffdon]

That was always going to happen. It was demonic behaviour

[Jimmy Floyd]

Can tell you’ve not watched Clarkson’s Farm.

I have and all the times he runs into sticky situations are when he's stupidly given names and personalities to animals that don't possess human qualities.

[randomlegend]

It's a fucking cow. It doesn't have a name. Grow up.

Such a weird take. In what world is it appropriate for a police officer to needlessly run over an animal?

Even in you ignore how despicable it is to do that to an animal, they also showed no regard for damaging the car.

[niko_cee]

Some farmer bod came out today and said it was probably the best thing to do, although I have no idea if he was some weird, reform candidate, anti-woke fascist farmer bod. Knowing farmers he probably was.

[Yevrah]

I'm from a farming background, the pigs used to get out now and again and I can guarantee you that ramming them with a vehicle is not an appropriate response.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It isn't appropriate but it's something we should all get over in 10 minutes and he should have a talking to from his sergeant, not be a major news story.

Actually, you've convinced me, I think on packets of supermarket mince they should write the name of the cow it came from.

[Lofty]

A bit daft not to realise it was going to cause a shit storm with all the plebs filming it out of their window though.

[Magic]

Some farmer bod came out today and said it was probably the best thing to do, although I have no idea if he was some weird, reform candidate, anti-woke fascist farmer bod. Knowing farmers he probably was.


I'm from a farming background

:sherlock:

[Spikey M]

:D

[John Arne]

Putin rocks up in Hanoi in a few days... Right in the middle of the massive purge of leadership and a military takeover of the government, also with rumours that the big boss is on his deathbed.

Should be fun.

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm55gzvv1dro

You have to wonder why this isn't bigger news. :sherlock:

I suspect it would be if it had been Richard Branson.

[igor_balis]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm55gzvv1dro

You have to wonder why this isn't bigger news. :sherlock:

I suspect it would be if it had been Richard Branson.

Honestly, there's something almost impressively evil about having servants on like 50p/hour when you're worth literally tens of billions. I mean it's one thing when mega corporations do it to thousands of employees, but when it's literally the people doing your cleaning and stuff, awesome. Legends.

[Ben]

The only awesome thing about it is the guillotine they should be executed in.

[Yevrah]

There must be some mistake, only the white man indulges in slavery.

[Magic]

It just goes to show you really do need to be an absolute cunt to be successful with capitalism.

[niko_cee]

There must be some mistake, only the white man indulges in slavery.

Don't worry, it'll be the fault of British India colonialism. Like how we made all the previously super gay Polynesians massive homophobes.

[Yevrah]

Phew, that'll be it. Normal service can resume.

[Dquincy]

Such a weird take. In what world is it appropriate for a police officer to needlessly run over an animal?

Even in you ignore how despicable it is to do that to an animal, they also showed no regard for damaging the car.

Presumably you eat animals and you don't have a problem with that? If you're vegetarian, then fair point. If not, you're a retard.

[Shindig]

If I was a copper, I'd not be concerned about damaging a car I don't have to pay for. Part of the job, etc.

[Spikey M]

If I was a copper, I'd not be concerned about damaging a car I don't have to pay for. Part of the job, etc.

If I was a pet kicker, I'd not be concerned about damaging my trainers.

[Spikey M]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0335xe9770o

Check the caves. Check the caves on this soulless rock.

[Shindig]

"He’s just a great person who everyone wanted to be with. He’s good looking, he’s a popular boy.”

Trafficked. 100%.

[Ben]

Some dodgy Gary Abletts more like.

[Boydy]

1803541032442929447

There's a link to the news story in the replies.

[Spikey M]

Fuck the caves. Leave him on the soulless rock.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

1803541032442929447

There's a link to the news story in the replies.

lol at the replies in that.


He is 19, would've been 17/18 when it happened. People make mistakes, and grow from them. Don't think anyone would defend what him and his friends done - his family included, but to even suggest that he deserves to go missing on holiday is awful. Really poor tweet.

[wullie]

I'd like to think if I carved someone's head open with a machete last year it would all have blown over by now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We all make mistakes, lad.

[Spikey M]

I stole a club bar from someone's tray in year 1 so I'm in no position to judge.

[Ben]

Very small minded behaviour that Spikes. :nono:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I stole a club bar from someone's tray in year 1 so I'm in no position to judge.

Flavour?

I'd advocate for the death penalty if it was mint.

[SvN]

In year 7 I nicked a ring pull from a kid that had won a free Dr Pepper. Throw away the key.

[Spikey M]

Flavour?

I'd advocate for the death penalty if it was mint.

Just a standard Club.

[randomlegend]

Mint chocolate is rank.

[niko_cee]

What is standard club, the blue one?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What is standard club, the blue one?

It was red (according to Wiki) but it's been discontinued.

Blue was also a chocolate apparently. New blue is salted caramel.

[Baz]

The orange ones are the best.

[Danny]

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[Spikey M]

1803933351968899107?s=19

[Lofty]

I was about to say I just came across that and it's fucking deranged. Clowns asking if anyone has bothered to check the hospitals, people offering to take their 'smell sensitive dog' over, his mates using go fund me begs to try and blag a free holiday to search for him, it really has it all.

[Jimmy Floyd]

And someone in a wheelchair debating whether they should fly over and help the search, post probably timed exactly as a lynx helps itself to the last of his liver.

[Spikey M]

Disabilities are superpowers Jim, her help could make all the difference.

[Shindig]

The internet really fucks people up in glorious ways.

[Spikey M]

1803933236927537214?s=19

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Spitting image.

[wullie]

My favourite one is the suggestion he might have got stuck to a cactus and still be there.

[Ben]

Someone post a link to the group. :D

[Dark Soldier]

All apparently coming out now that the lass who started the gofundme, who is just some random he met over there, is a dealer too.

Man's had his scrotum blitzed in a blender giving it the wideboy patter to some actual geezers imo.

[phonics]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQl7z9nXwAA2YgM.jpg

You forget how thick a massive amount of the country is.

[Ben]

Just had five minutes reading that group. Incredible.

[Danny]

That can’t be him in the picture he’s not carrying a machete

[Spikey M]

There's alot of very thick people out there with an awful lot of time on their hands.

[Danny]

Something something balloon.

[wullie]

If he doesn't reply to his email try sending him a Teams message, works more often than you think.

[Spikey M]

Just had five minutes reading that group. Incredible.

Put a post up asking if they've tried a Medium.

[-james-]

The absolute thickest people you went to school with are now just adults and are no less thick.

[Spikey M]

That's not true. A fair few of them are perma-spazzed on various drugs. I imagine they're much thicker than they already were.

[Spikey M]

My favourite one is the suggestion he might have got stuck to a cactus and still be there.

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[Dark Soldier]

https://i.ibb.co/7QRDsKz/20240621-162730.jpg

[Danny]

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[Danny]

https://i.imgur.com/kGkSvdU.png

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Someone (or something, BALLOON?!?!?) has logged into his Instagram account according to that group.

Makes you wonder.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's basically turned into the pond life Olympics.

[Magic]

https://i.ibb.co/7QRDsKz/20240621-162730.jpg

That is literally you DS.

[Giggles]

Am I missing something or has the world just decided to lol about some poor young fella missing?

[Baz]

If I go missing, leave me be.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Am I missing something or has the world just decided to lol about some poor young fella missing?

There was sympathy initially and then it was discovered he was involved in doing some kid's head in with a machete last year and the sympathy evaporated, except with a load of, how can I put this, Facebook women.

[Shindig]

That and the Facebook detectives that came out of the woodwork when that drunk woman got ballooned.

Also piss-takers looking to stir the pot.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If I go missing, leave me be.

Obviously.

We know you'd have gone off and escaped your home life.

[Giggles]

There was sympathy initially and then it was discovered he was involved in doing some kid's head in with a machete last year and the sympathy evaporated, except with a load of, how can I put this, Facebook women.

Ah, I'd read that somewhere along the way and hadn't copped it was the same lad.

[Giggles]

Shacked up with a 16 year old.

[Spikey M]

Am I missing something or has the world just decided to lol about some poor young fella missing?

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Fuck the cunt, frankly.

[Shindig]

In all seriousness, one of us going missing brings a lot of attention to this board. Imagine someone regurgitating posts to facebook. :D

[Dark Soldier]

That is literally you DS.

Thx bbz xx

[Mike]

In all seriousness, one of us going missing brings a lot of attention to this board. Imagine someone regurgitating posts to facebook. :D

Using them for clues :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

In all seriousness, one of us going missing brings a lot of attention to this board. Imagine someone regurgitating posts to facebook. :D

Let's not have this please.

[Magic]

"Oh no, there's a pair of his jeans he must be naked"
"Not in this case"

[Dark Soldier]

In all seriousness, one of us going missing brings a lot of attention to this board. Imagine someone regurgitating posts to facebook. :D

"Have the police spoken to this 'broom' person??"

[Lofty]

Just think, these people are eligible for jury duty.

[Lewis]

This (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyxxz799vxko) sounds quite sensible to me, so obviously he's a hate figure now.

[Spikey M]

That's not how this stuff works. You just turn up, look sheepish and ashamed, take your talking to, job done. Nobody wants actual answers.

[igor_balis]

Weirdly I'd been reading about a lot of the missing people CLASSICS before this fella got stuck to a cactus. Still think Andrew Gosden is the most compelling one, poor lad.

[niko_cee]

This (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyxxz799vxko) sounds quite sensible to me, so obviously he's a hate figure now.

Wasn't it his job to stand up for the people who were being prosecuted rather than, per the story, ratting out people who were questioning the 'robustness' of the system? Now, you could say that sort of thing is classic union boss behaviour. That and trousering all of the money that was being paid to them presumably for the benefit of their members. Sounds an all round good egg.

[Baz]

Still think Andrew Gosden is the most compelling one, poor lad.What draws you to him more than any others? (Besides not being involved in a machete attack 12 months before going awol)

[Shindig]

The family also looked into music concerts that Gosden might have gone to London to attend. The night of his disappearance, Thirty Seconds to Mars played the Brixton Academy

Jared Leto has him tied up in a sex dungeon.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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That sounds like it could well be legit.

[niko_cee]

It's some going to manage to get yourself involved in some sort of international drugs cartel, knock off a bunch of the mafia's gear and get abducto-murdered within a week or whatever of going on holiday on your own for the first time.

[Spikey M]

He might just be being tortured.fingers crossed.

[Baz]

A lad I went to primary school with was 100% a drug mule. Was always on holiday with his boyfriend, especially at Christmas. Died in his early thirties too, so clearly sampling whatever he was transporting.

[Danny]

Bag of drugs not the only thing to bust in his backside

[igor_balis]

Bag of drugs not the only thing to bust in his backside

Haha yeah cus he's gay :chortle:

[igor_balis]

What draws you to him more than any others? (Besides not being involved in a machete attack 12 months before going awol)

Dunno, similar age, the fact he was a quiet nerdy wuss and bunking off school to get the train to London seemed totally out of character, and the fact that seemingly he had absolutely no access to the internet. Just odd.

[niko_cee]

Couldn't help but laugh at this (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgrr5557k80o).

Poor buggers.

[Magic]

Brilliant. They wanted their (cannabis) cake and to eat it. Fuck them and it serves them right.

[Baz]

My betting group chat discovered a telegram group about jay slater discussions and theories, so naturally infiltrated it to take the piss. It’s equal parts amusing and astonishing reading some genuine ideas being floated about. Dropping battery packs from an airplane for him to retrieve and charge his phone being a recent highlight.

Also noticed a lot of wannabe onlyfans “models” showing up to show concern and then start gradually promoting their material. Smart.

[Dark Soldier]

What are the names of these only fans models, just so I know who to avoid?

[Boydy]

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:cab:

[Baz]

What are the names of these only fans models, just so I know who to avoid?

Nelly Martland, I believe

@miss_nellymartland on telegram

[Dark Soldier]

Cheers Baz God's work.

[Dark Soldier]

Face like a praying mantis that one, I'll just do a month.

[Waffdon]

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The irony :D