The NFL Thread

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000656383/article/unnamed-scout-eli-apples-inability-to-cook-is-red-flag

"I worry about him because of off-the-field issues," said an unnamed scout. "The kid has no life skills. At all. Can't cook. Just a baby. He's not first round for me. He scares me to death."

:D

That has to be absolute bullshit, if not fucking hell.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://i.imgur.com/DWKBiTw.png http://i.imgur.com/hF5S2eG.png

Final edition of my mock, if we actually do get Tunsil we riot.

[Dan]

I could have done about twenty mock drafts this week. Tried to shake this one up with a couple of trades.

1. Rams - Jared Goff, QB
2. Eagles - Carson Wentz, QB
3. Chargers - DeForest Buckner, DE
4. Cowboys - Jalen Ramsey, DB
5. Titans - Laremy Tunsil, OT
6. Ravens - Ronnie Stanley, OT
7. 49ers - Myles Jack, LB
8. Dolphins - Ezekiel Elliott, RB
9. Bucs - Vernon Hargreaves, CB
10. Giants - Leonard Floyd, LB
11. Bears - Jack Conklin, OT
12. Saints - Shaq Lawson, DE
13. Browns - Sheldon Rankins, DT
14. Raiders - Eli Apple, CB
15. Jags - Kevin Dodd, DE
16. Lions - Josh Doctson, WR
17. Falcons - Darron Lee, LB
18. Colts - Cody Whitehair, OG
19. Bills - Jarran Reed, DT
20. Jets - Reggie Ragland, LB
21. Redskins - A'Shawn Robinson, DT
22. Texans - Corey Coleman, WR
23. Vikings - Laquon Treadwell, WR
24. Bengals - Michael Thomas, WR
25. Steelers - William Jackson III, CB
26. Seahawks - Taylor Decker, OT
27. Packers - Andrew Billings, DT
28. Chiefs - Will Fuller, WR
29. Cardinals - Ryan Kelly, C
30. Panthers - Artie Burns, CB
31. Broncos - Chris Jones, DT

I could tweak that one in a load of places as well. Will probably be staying up to see how it pans out, although I have no idea how long it'll take for me to get bored & go to sleep :D

[Ian]

All it takes is one trade or one reach or one GM doing something legitimately stupid to blow the whole thing to hell. Why bother doing your own mock?

[Dan]

It's something to pass the time.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You can win prizes.

[Ian]

Oh, well that's a bit different. Not that I'm sure why it didn't occur to me that there'd probably be a competetive element.

I like the mock on... one of MMQB or SI where the guy referred to it as an "anti-mock." Basically saying he couldn't pretend to know how one individual GM might foul the whole thing up and just saying what he thought they should do instead.

[Giggles]

What time is this at? I used to be all over it until they moved it from the weekennd and I realised it's mostly blind luck.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Coverage starts at midnights on SS1.

[Ian]

If he falls far enough I'm quite into the idea of Denver taking Ryan Kelly.

[Dan]

I like the mock on... one of MMQB or SI where the guy referred to it as an "anti-mock." Basically saying he couldn't pretend to know how one individual GM might foul the whole thing up and just saying what he thought they should do instead.

Isn't that basically what most mock drafts are?

[Ian]

I'd say most mocks are what they think will happen, not necessarily should, combined with what they're hearing from the teams.

I've certainly read enough previous mocks which are fully taking into account that teams such as the Raiders, to name one, were likely to pick to form (loving a physical freak, for example) rather than do something more sensible.

Even this year I don't remember any mock-ers saying Goff and Wentz should be a nailed-on 1-2, it's just now fairly obviously going to be the case.

[Gray Fox]

I'm 99% sure we're taking Goff. I'd like to be wrong, but I don't think I am.

[Ian]

There's too much chat on it for it not to happen but I'd love that sort of curveball.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's always great when teams go proper left field.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BQHqTRMTCs

Although this is better due to what actually happened...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH_S-KnAEp4

Probably the most happy a set of fans have ever been at a draft only for it to end with a butt fumble.

https://media.giphy.com/media/Ch3B2ty7gY7HW/giphy.gif

[Ian]

I still want him starting more than Kaepernick.

None other than John Elway once managed to line up under Guard so I'll run the risk of a 'butt-fumble' over that preening little shit.

[Gray Fox]

Sometime during tonight one of the QBless teams will get desperate I think and make a mental offer.

We know pick #1 and #2 will be QBs. I have it as Wentz first then Goff. Just because the Browns were all set to take Wentz at #2, then when the Rams traded up they suddenly didn't want their #2 pick any more.

The picks that should shape this draft are #4 Cowboys and #6 Ravens. What these two pick will impact everyone below them except maybe the 49ers, who have to decide if #7 is too pricey for Paxton Lynch.

EDIT: Apparently Myles Jack is freefalling down the draft board. Teams are looking elsewhere, being worried about his surgically repaired knee.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I had him taking a slide (5th to 13th based on my first and final) but I can't see him going further than that. The guy seems like he could be a damn good player and has a good head on his shoulders. AP has also shown that knee injuries aren't the killers they once were.

I've heard a rumour that if Tunsil/Ramsay isn't at 6 and we can't trade down we could take Ezekiel Elliot which just seems mental. Forsett isn't exactly on his last legs, Allen and Taliaferro have run well when given a chance, West did well after he was signed last year and we still have the Richardson experiment.

If we can't trade down and Tunsil/Ramsay/Buckner isn't there I'd much rather Jack, he and Mosley could make a mean tandem.

[Gray Fox]

I'm happy with either Goff or Wentz, but I really hope it's Wentz. I just like what I've seen from him.

I don't think the Ravens will trade back. You aren't likely to be in the top 6 again soon so why not take a top player.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's all trying to play the percentages though, in the hope that the player they want wont be drafted by a run of teams based on their needs and Newsome and De Costa are two of the best at it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Didn't realise that Nkemdiche was that mental.

Ole Miss defensive tackle Robert Nkemdiche fell about 15 feet from an Atlanta hotel Saturday night, but the junior was conscious when officers reported to the scene and was in stable condition when taken to a local hospital, according to the Atlanta Police Department.

An APD report added that a small amount of what was suspected to be marijuana was found in a hotel room at the Grand Hyatt Atlanta in Buckhead. A call by The Clarion-Ledger to the hotel’s general manager, Scott Snipes, wasn’t immediately returned.

“It appears that the victim (Nkemdiche) broke the window and then walked approximately 15 feet and climbed over a wall and fell approximately 15 feet,” read the report.

He wont be in the league long.

[Gray Fox]

If Tunsil(best player in the draft for me) is still free at #6 I think you take him. Bosa, Buckner, Ramsey and Tunsil are guaranteed takes. Beyond that it's down to what you get offered. If the price is enough then you move back.

[Dan]

San Diego, Dallas, San Francisco & Cleveland are the four big picks early on. Lots of different possible selections & it's not impossible that at least one of them trades down, which could really shake things up depending on who moves up.

I'm looking forward to this now. Just listening to a few PFF Shorts then I'll be booting up GamePass & trying not to fall asleep until at least after the Saints make their pick.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah, Tunsil or Ramsay falling to us would be absolutely perfect.

I read that Mayock had us trading picks with the Titans (and them giving us the 33rd pick only) with Tunsil still there. The guys an absolute mong.

[Gray Fox]

Word is the Browns and the Jags are willing to move back if the price is right. The Browns want to move up their 2nd round pick as well as backing up in the 1st.

Wait til teams are on the clock. It's going to go off I think.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The first pick should only get like a 2/3 minute window, especially if said team has traded up.

What wankers the Rams are for taking nearly the whole 10 minutes.

[Pleb]

A quarterback as a first pick?

Shocker.

[Gray Fox]

I think you'll see a lot of that as we move past #2.

Teams will want to see just how mental the offers will be.

[Dan]

In before Philly take someone that isn't Wentz.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think you'll see a lot of that as we move past #2.

Teams will want to see just how mental the offers will be.

After 1 and 2 sure I understand that, but it's not like the Rams were taking calls having given up a mountain for Goff.

[Gray Fox]

So glad we didn't fuck that up. Now it really gets interesting.
Mahow I agree. If Goff really was their man all along they didn't need another 9 minutes to decide.

[Dan]

Ezekiel Elliott is wearing some incredible gear tonight :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/SY5I4Uj8x7l7eXGnpZCGjg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3NfbGVnbztxPTg1/http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/sports/2016-04-28/b7c0e240-0d8d-11e6-88ef-a7d7d36aa91d_ChKS_XtWYAAcv4y.jpg

Fucking hell :D

[Dan]

Jerry will probably take him just for that, to be fair.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh shit, didn't see that coming.

[Gray Fox]

Bosa to the Chargers. That should kick things off :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ramsay or Tunsil is fucking on :drool:

[Dan]

Interesting...

[Gray Fox]

Ravens get Tunsil and Mahow riots.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He seems like a nice chap, hope he does well.

[Dan]

Please do something stupid, please do something stupid, please do something stupid :yn:

[Gray Fox]

They surely have to take some Romo protection here.

[Dan]

This sounds like it has to be Ramsey then.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cowboys should take Ramsey, their secondary is shambolic.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Running backs can be had off the street, especially with a line like the Cowboys.

[Gray Fox]

Someone calm Mahow. :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jerry's got involved there.

Spending the 4th pick on a running back :harold:

This isn't the early 00's lads.

[Dan]

Excellent, get straight out there & call Jalen Ramsey's name next.

Think you're safe now Mahow.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

How we've got one of the two best talents in the draft I will never know.

What a win this is :drool:

[Dan]

It has to be the outfit that swung it, right? Jerry couldn't help himself.

[Gray Fox]

I think Jags could take Tunsil here. They have some great young talent in that offence. The QB and RBs need some help using it.

Actually no. You have to take Ramsey really.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fucking hell though.

I wrote us off having a chance at Tunsil as absolutely zero about a month ago, then wrote us off having Ramsay 2 weeks later.

We've genuinely won no matter which we get left with.

[Dan]

Yeah, it's certainly not a bad idea for them to take Tunsil - Luke Joeckel has been dogshite by all accounts, so he'd certainly be an upgrade, and they do have a decent set of DBs...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah, it's certainly not a bad idea for them to take Tunsil - Luke Joeckel has been dogshite by all accounts, so he'd certainly be an upgrade, and they do have a decent set of DBs...

They do need a CB, their safeties should be fine but he will help them a lot although so would have Tunsil but it does appear that Ramsey is one of the best DBs to come out of college in quite a while.

And as he's had experience at CB and S he should be absolutely fine in either man or zone, quite a lot of corners are only good at one. Revis looked horseshit for the Bucs in their zone scheme but is a monster in man for example.

[Gray Fox]

You'd have to think they would never have expected Ramsey to drop to them, he looks special. Zeke going at #4 is opening it up. I like the look of that young Jags team. Ravens might as well scream TUNSIL from their green room.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Jags could be a real team this coming season.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfjfzd7Hnws

Fucking hell, what a mong.

[Dan]

Buckner to SanFran seems like the sensible pick at 7 - he'd be lining up next to his old college teammate as well, which would be pretty interesting to see.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah, considering what he just fucking posted on his Twitter I'm glad we decided on Stanley instead.

Tunsil has just fucked himself over hard.

[Dan]

They obviously saw the video.

[Gray Fox]

Maybe the Ravens just saw that video.

[Dan]

Mayock dropping hints about it there.

How far does Tunsil fall now? Can't imagine he'd have got past the next two without that fuckup.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's deleted his Twitter account now :D

[Gray Fox]

Reported on the draft show now. He might well take a big slide here.

[Dan]

Good answer from Stanley, I thought.

I have no fucking idea who Cleveland are going to take at 8. Maybe a tackle or someone like Sheldon Rankins, although I guess Paxton Lynch could be an option as well if they can't trade back further as they seem to want to.

[Gray Fox]

Conklin just moved up some in the draft I think.

49ers take Buckner?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

His agent must be absolutely seething.

[Gray Fox]

Chip Kelly in picking Oregon player shocker.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

A solid pick, there was no chance Chip Kelly would pass on a former Oregon Duck.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Our first live trade :drool:

[Dan]

We have a trade :drool:

Titans coming back up is odd, even if it's Tunsil. Probably could've had a shot at him at 15, or if not him then Conklin. Hargreaves seems more likely considering he's been tipped to the Bucs at 9 by almost everyone at some point.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'd be stunned if the Titans don't take a offensive lineman.

Conklin perhaps.

[Gray Fox]

Titans making trades. What have they seen I wonder. Conklin?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

TTH > Mike Mayock.

Only Tunsil or Hargreaves indeed dickhead :harold:

[Dan]

Browns are going to end up with every pick in the 2017 draft at this rate.

[Gray Fox]

I wonder at what point do teams start taking the risk on Tunsil. Myles Jack could go before him at this rate.

[Gray Fox]

Bears have traded up. It's going off :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/day-before-draft--top-prospect-laremy-tunsil-sued-by-stepfather-165834389.html

Tunsil is also being sued by his Step-Dad (for the second time, lol), another possibly reason for why he is sliding.

[Dan]

I'd have thought someone would go in for him in the middle of the round. Giants & Bears could both be options, I guess.

EDIT: Bears going up. Are they grabbing Taylor Decker then? :D We're going to get every OT other than Tunsil taken in consecutive picks.

[Gray Fox]

Bears trading up says to me they're jumping on someone they didn't think would be there. Could be Tunsil.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hargreaves here for the Bears.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lads in the back should take a look at Boldin.

Now that's a fucking suit, he's even rocking a waistcoat like a beast.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oooh, that's a left field pick from the Bears.

A good left field pick though.

[Gray Fox]

Floyd over Hargreaves is an interesting one.

[Dan]

JUST FUCKING TELL US THE PICK! I was enjoying this before all the waffle.

The fans don't know whether to be angry or not :D

[Gray Fox]

Fans want to be pissy but not when the kids are there. Giants have a decision to make here.

I never expected Tunsil to be dropping into the double figures.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Confirmed that the video was why the Ravens didn't take Tunsil.

[Dan]

I bloody hate it when people read their own notes off the screen like Mayock is doing with his player analyses.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I bloody hate it when people read their own notes off the screen like Mayock is doing with his player analyses.

Indeed, it's completely fucking word for word.

Mayock is such a shit analyst.

[Gray Fox]

I love how they hold his mock draft as almost gospel there too.

We're heading towards risk v reward time on the likes of Myles Jack.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I love how they hold his mock draft as almost gospel there too.

We're heading towards risk v reward time on the likes of Myles Jack.

Yep, calling it 'The one mock to rule them all' or something. I have no idea why the NFL buys into all his bollocks.

Surprised that the Giants went for Apple instead of Hargreaves.

[Dan]

Giants weren't bothered by his cooking skills then.

[Gray Fox]

Teams in the teens are going to be getting some good players here too.

Hargreaves goes now then surely?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Teams in the teens are going to be getting some good players here too.

Hargreaves goes now then surely?
Shaq Lawson possibly.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If the Saints don't take Tunsil he could go on a massive slide.

[Dan]

Our pick is going to be up for grabs - Jack, Lynch, Lawson, Dodd, Rankins & possibly even Tunsil could be called, among others.

[Gray Fox]

I think the Saints take Rankins after Hargreaves or maybe Lawson goes here.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The phone call :D

Fucking hell.

[Dan]

I hope we take a DE, most likely Lawson or Dodd. There's a bit more depth at DT so we should be able to come back in R2 & get someone to rotate in alongside Nick Fairley.

Hargreaves taking selfies as his name gets called is up there with Elliott's shirt as the most twatty moments from drafted players so far.

[Gray Fox]

In Tunsil news. A picture of him halfway out of the gas mask above is now doing the rounds. He might not get picked at all here.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Browns are the next tackle needy team for Tunsil.

[Dan]

I'm fine with Rankins - he looks like he could be a beast, and he should help us out against the run & pass. Hopefully there's a decent end available when we get to pick next though.

[Gray Fox]

In all honestly I don't think he'll get past the Colts. Either they or the Lions will take the risk.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

In all honestly I don't think he'll get past the Colts. Either they or the Lions will take the risk.

The Colts need a C not a tackle though. They'll take Ryan Kelly.

[Gray Fox]

Well it's a moot point now. It'll be interesting to see where Myles Jack pops up now.

[Dan]

There we go then. Wonder if he'll get interviewed...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm with Eisen, there's no way that video is 5 years old.

Could be a great pick for the Dolphins if he sorts his shit out.

[Gray Fox]

On the field, that's a steal. Assuming he doesn't go down the Gordon route off it.

Got to be pissed he's missed out on the Ravens though.

[Dan]

Could be an option for Jack here.

[Gray Fox]

Browns to take Decker?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I thought Jack too, the Raiders have fuck all at MLB and I mean that literally. It seems they only have a chap called Ben Heeney there.

[Dan]

Decent pick for Oakland. Browns to trade down yet again.

[Gray Fox]

First WR off the board. Jets and Falcons both been trying to trade up.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Thought Will Fuller would be the first WR.

[Dan]

Browns have so many holes & so many picks I have no idea whether that was a good decision or not :D

Coleman should be a good player, mind. Shame he has no QB to get him the ball. I thought Doctson might go to Detroit, but otherwise I think I had Coleman first to Houston.

[Gray Fox]

He will when they take a QB again next year,

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The guy looks fucking massive.

[Dan]

Mayock gets one back.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Neil Reynolds :D

[Gray Fox]

I'm staying up to see the Jets pick at 20 then I'm off to bed.

Could see Lynch go there and it'll make the Broncos and 49ers get a little tradey.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Karl Joseph looks like he could be my kind of player.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoYpwArlp3M

[Dan]

Colts didn't take long to make their pick.

[Gray Fox]

Colts pick was straight in there. Obviously got their man.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That was nailed on.

[Gray Fox]

Now let's see who fancies Lynch.

[Dan]

Good pick by the look of it. Does Lynch go here or do the Jets get a shot at him?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Ravens start making a few calls to trade up late in the first round if Myles Jack is there.

[Dan]

I'm starting to flag now, but I'm sufficiently intrigued with how the rest of the round is going to play out that I don't want to bail yet :(

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jets have got a QB.

Although I'd fucking love it if they go left field and they pick like a running back who was projected to go undrafted or something.

'Mon Jets, go full retard again please.

[Gray Fox]

Great pick for the Bills there. Doesn't look like anyone wants to touch Jack. Jets should have the Broncos on the phone about now.

See if they fuck it up again.

[Dan]

Lynch to Denver or Cleveland then I guess.

Trade time again - Texans literally moved up one place :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I was expecting something big there, what a shit trade.

[Gray Fox]

I don't think Denver will let him pass. Suffer through #ButtFumble for a year while phasing Lynch in. Will be worth it long term. That should see the Jets re-sign Fitzpatrick now.

[Dan]

Pick makes sense for Houston - get a blazing fast guy to catch bombs from Osweiler.

[Gray Fox]

Back on Tunsil news. Apparently something else came out on his Instagram about an exchange of money with his Coach. He was asked in an interview if this was true. He said "I'd have to say so..." and was then quickly ushered away.

Looks like an Ole Miss coach paid him.

[Dan]

LOL

He's going to end up getting cut before the Dolphins even sign him to a contract if news keeps breaking at this rate.

[Gray Fox]

He was apparently lead away from all press the second he said that. He needs to get out the building before he makes it worse.

[Dan]

Doctson's an interesting pick, but he should be a good fit alongside Reed, Jackson, Garcon & Crowder. Looks like the WR run might be on.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--lCWHyYco--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/k1cqelqh1l8ronehm0ie.jpg

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1YkyF7R9--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/uwne2nfnhrfi1prss926.jpg

My money is on him sleeping with an animal next.

[Gray Fox]

Well I'm out. That's enough drama for one evening :p

I'm sure I'll wake up to more of it :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Bengals really fucked the Steelers up there and I think Pittsburgh just went 'Fuck, who is the next best CB?'.

I honestly can see us getting Myles Jack.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I really hope that the Ravens take a chance on Jack.

We can roll with Mosley and Arthur Brown/Albert McClellan/Zachary Orr next year and let Jack get the surgery.

Niners have gone full retard with the amount they gave up to select a guard who wasn't even the third best left.

[Ian]

That feels like a reach for Lynch but didn't give away much and a QB is required so be it. Elway's done enough good for me to trust his judgement.

[Giggles]

Half of these are going to be shit, it's like watching YouTube highlights of soccer signings.

Will be interesting to see whether the Rams or Eagles got the dud at the top though.

[Gray Fox]

Will be interesting to see whether the Rams or Eagles got the dud at the top though.

I don't think either will be. By the sounds of it Goff is almost ready to go in the NFL but the Rams needed to do something. They're on the longest losing slide in the league and had a different QB every 6 months.

Eagles pick makes sense due to our coaching staff. Coach Pederson was himself a QB who went on to become a QB coach. He obviously saw something he liked in Wentz so he'll take him under his wing and take the year or so it might take to train him up.

[Dan]

Fell asleep at Treadwell, but there were a few interesting picks afterwards - 49ers jumping back in to get Garnett being one of them. Can't have been too nailed on to have gone before their second round pick, especially with Whitehair still being there. Nkemdiche to Arizone could be a great pick if they can sort him out the way they did with Mathieu, and the Bengals taking Jackson seems pretty shrewd, although it does kind of limit their options at WR as most of the better guys will be gone by the time they pick again.

We don't pick again until 16, but if one of Dodd, Ogbah & Spence are still there & we take them I think we'll have done very well with our first two picks.

[Browning]

The Rams getting a QB and the Jags getting Ramsey has made me quite excited for the UK games. From the 6 teams coming over we have Goff, OBJ, AJ Green, Luck, Norman and.... the Jaguars to be excited about, and to be fair the Jags could be massively improved. Can't complain.

[Gray Fox]

I'd forgotten about that.

Goff v the Giants' expensive as fuck new defence at Twickenham. :D

[Giggles]

Are either likely to start?

[Dan]

Round 2 starts at 11, right? Will probably try to stay up for it if so, but I'll have to bail on R3 as I'm working tomorrow :(

Might have to look into getting tickets for the London games if there are any left.

[Gray Fox]

Coverage starts at 7pm ET so that makes it 12 our time I believe.
Dan as far as I know the Rams/Giants was sold out within the day they came out and the Redskins/Bengals was sold out the day after that.

[Browning]

Yea all 3 sold out fast. I can probably never give up my Season Ticket.

[Gray Fox]

There's 6 of us going from work and even though we were on it for when the tickets went live we still only got 3 together, then 2 together and then another 1.

[Foe]

Anyone been on NFL.com and done a mock draft?

http://imgur.com/a/chpJs

Apologies for the horrific photos. I have no idea how to screen shot on a mac.

Recorded this last night and ignored my phone and the internet all day until I got home from work at like half 5. Shoved it straight on and just enjoyed watching the coverage. :drool:

Trades aside, I had Goff then Wentz, Zeke @ 4 (@Mahow), Buckner at 7, Floyd to Chicago (at 11) and Hargreaves to Tampa (at 9). The rest was a duck hunt that didn't go well.

Pretty happy with the Colts selection but a bit wary of what the Texans have done. They picked up Collins at WR last year who seemingly is a bit of a dropper so that's what they've gone for again. I hope they prove me wrong mind, as all it will do is open up Deandre Hopkins to be even more of a beast.

Bosa at 3 was a total shock though.

[Giggles]

I can't even get tickets for a poxy college game here.

[Foe]

I can't even get tickets for a poxy college game here.

Boston college vs someone? UCF?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Midnight.

Edit: Didn't see the new page.

[Gray Fox]

Doesn't the college game pull the same kind of attendances you'd get here in the BPL, over there?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Recorded this last night and ignored my phone and the internet all day until I got home from work at like half 5. Shoved it straight on and just enjoyed watching the coverage. :drool:

Trades aside, I had Goff then Wentz, Zeke @ 4 (@Mahow), Buckner at 7, Floyd to Chicago (at 11) and Hargreaves to Tampa (at 9). The rest was a duck hunt that didn't go well.

Pretty happy with the Colts selection but a bit wary of what the Texans have done. They picked up Collins at WR last year who seemingly is a bit of a dropper so that's what they've gone for again. I hope they prove me wrong mind, as all it will do is open up Deandre Hopkins to be even more of a beast.

Bosa at 3 was a total shock though.
Goff, Wentz, Floyd at 9, Hargreaves at 11 and Ryan Kelly at 18 were my only spot on picks.

I was ranked 8469th in NFL's predict a pick :\

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000657751/article/tunsil-overcomes-allergic-reaction-meets-with-media

Tunsil, the 13th overall pick currently mired in controversy after his social media accounts were mysteriously hacked on draft night, was not seated with coach Adam Gase, vice president Mike Tannenbaum or general manager Chris Grier in front of a packed house at team headquarters. Instead, Tannenbaum explained that Tunsil had suffered "an allergic reaction" and was with team medical staff.

Approximately 30 minutes after the session ended, the Dolphins hosted a second availability, this time with Tunsil, who looked no worse for the wear. Tunsil spoke with reporters for five minutes and deflected any questions about the events that led to his arrival in Miami.

[Gray Fox]

I wonder if Miami are regretting that pick.

[Dan]

I hope the clock is shorter tonight :D

7mins was not as much of a drop as I'd have liked.

[Gray Fox]

Expect a lot of trade offers early here.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It is, 7 minutes for round 2 then 5 minutes for round 3-6 (bar Compensatory picks which follow round 7 rules) and then 4 minutes for round 7.

The last day is always the best because everyone doesn't give a shit anymore and everyone is so relaxed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Could see the Ravens go for one of A'Shawn Robinson, Jarran Reed or Reggie Ragland.

Ozzie does love Alabama guys.

[Gray Fox]

You have to think someone in the Cowboys, Chargers or Ravens will take the chance on Myles Jack now.

Poor lad left sat in that empty green room yesterday :p

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You have to think someone in the Cowboys, Chargers or Ravens will take the chance on Myles Jack now.

Poor lad left sat in that empty green room yesterday :p

I'd be stunned if he goes beyond those three.

I think the Jags would love him but I can't see him dropping to them.

[Dan]

Looks like Cleveland might not be quite as shit in a few years time.

[Dan]

Interesting that they called Dodd up as a linebacker rather than a DE.

[Dan]

Smith gets taken over Jack :D

Wish they'd shut whoever's crying loudly up.

[Dan]

Jags swapping spots with the Ravens. Myles Jack or a pass rusher?

Hunter Henry should do nicely learning from Antonio Gates.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's a horrible pick from the Chargers, they already have a good young TE to take over from Gates in Green.

I can see the Jags taking Jack now.

[Dan]

Hasn't Green gone to Pittsburgh?

[Gray Fox]

Dan he has indeed.

Jaguars are killing it so far this off season.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Hasn't Green gone to Pittsburgh?

Shit, I completely forget. Even Fabiano did too.

That's great from the Jags. They get Ramsay AND Jack who a lot people predicted them to take at 5 just last week.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Jaguars defence is fucking beastly on paper.

[Dan]

The AFC South could be immense this season. Jags, Texans & Titans have all made big improvements (on paper at least), and the Colts will have Luck back.

Baltimore are the Browns of R2. They've just traded down again :D

[Browning]

Hasn't Green gone to Pittsburgh?

Indeed.

Lovely pick from the Jags. Growing a real soft spot for them due to their London games.

[Gray Fox]

Ravens have just traded back again with Miami.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ooooh, I like that the Ravens are trading back now.

They'll be happy with one of those 3 Alabama guys or a CB like Mackenzie Alexander or Kendall Fuller.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I fucking love MJD.

[Dan]

I'm not going to last until the Saints pick again, I can tell :moop:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Csonka :cool:

[Gray Fox]

There's still some quality guys left here. Kind of shit we gave up our 2nd round pick when we needed help on our defence.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Little surprised it wasn't one of the Alabama duo or a corner but we did need a pass rusher.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Willie Brown is great.

[Gray Fox]

After Willie Brown I can go to bed. :D

[Gray Fox]

Good thing I didn't just yet. DeMarco and Henry? They've got some north/south running power there.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Drafting a QB with 48 TD's and 30 picks in college? :harold:

They should have taken Cook.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Second rounder on a kicker :harold:

And they fucking traded up for him, jesus fucking christ.

They gave up a fourth rounder to move up to select him and they have 2 kickers on the books already. My word, it just gets better.

[Spoonsky]

Devontae Booker still not picked. :nono:

[Gray Fox]

Second rounder on a kicker :harold:

And they fucking traded up for him, jesus fucking christ.

They gave up a fourth rounder to move up to select him and they have 2 kickers on the books already. My word, it just gets better.

He's the guy that's never missed in college isn't he? They said he could go as high as the 3rd round in some mock drafts and people balked then :p

He's guaranteed to miss his first kick isn't he?

[Foe]

The jags have done well here, assuming miles jack actually manage to play a down in the NFL. If the Cowboys knew he'd be available they could've taken Ramsay and just had jack play rb and lb.

[Gray Fox]

The question with him has always been, do you let him play until his knee blows and then fix it? Or do you try to have it fixed before he plays?

Jags look like they've decided on the former.

[Foe]

Two big picks at the start of round 4. Joe Schobert is an absolute weapon for the Browns, he was absolutely brilliant at Wisconsin in College - one of few players I actually watched, recognised and appreciated when I was watching college football saturdays.

The Conor Cook to the fucking Raiders. :moop:

[Gray Fox]

All the defensive talent in this draft an we have a QB followed by a Guard, with no pick in the 2nd or 4th round. Shame we couldn't have moved Bradford on before the draft started.

Cook to the Raiders is a very interesting one.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The real feel good story of the draft thus far is Shon Coleman.

In 2011 and 2012 he had treatment having been diagnosed with leukaemia, he beat it and two years ago he announced a first round pick. Last night he was drafted by the Browns in the third round.

[Gray Fox]

Last night he was drafted by the Browns in the third round.

So what you're saying is, the real suffering starts now?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:D

[Foe]

Prescott to the Cowboys and Cardale Jones to the Bills makes sense as development guys. Really don't understand what happened with the DT from Baylor. He was really highly rated and yet fell into the 4th round.

Just waiting for that German WR to get drafted now. :yn:

[Dan]

Rehad Higgins still on the board, as well as Brandon Allen, Kalen Reed, Daniel Braverman, Moritz Boehringer, Vadal Alexander, Scooby Wright III & Thomas Duarte, plus several others I've seen tipped as 2nd or 3rd round guys.

Plenty of value to be had late on.

[Gray Fox]

Just waiting for that German WR to get drafted now. :yn:

I want us to take him. We have fuck all at WR beyond Matthews so he's worth a chance.

We take RB Wendell Smallwood and trade with the Steelers to take OT Halapoulivaati Vaitai(I'll never be able to not copy/paste that) in the 5th round.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Nooooooooo, the Vikings took the massive German :(

[Gray Fox]

Damn it. Still fair play to the kid.

First European player ever to be drafted I believe.

[Browning]

Are people still pretending to know/care about these players?

[Dan]

I don't know about them beyond having heard about a few of them on podcasts, but MoBo getting picked by Minnesota is a nice story.

We have no picks today until R7 :moop: Could do with a corner, so hopefully Kalen Reed is still about & is as good as PFF reckon.

[Foe]

Bellichick will be pissed the Ravens took his navy guy Reynolds.

[Gray Fox]

We've just traded away our R6 pick now. 2 in R7 to take. Hope we take defensive help.

Now Boehringer is gone I'm only really interested to see if anyone takes baby Gronk.

[Dan]

Baby Gronk is still there, but Baby Watt has just been picked up by the Chargers.

[Gray Fox]

I'm not even sure he'll go at all, but that name might see him through.

We've now gone QB, OG, RB, OT and now CB. Last real need we have is at WR. Boehringer would have been great.

[Ian]

Another RB for Denver. I assume that was a genuine case of picking the best player on their board.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I really like what the Ravens have done in the draft.

We've picked in all the areas where we were lacking and seemed to get some real bargains. Especially the running back, Dixon who was seen as 3rd or 4th best this year by many analysts and a corner who was undervalued because he's a little small but from the sound of him he's a brilliant nickel guy which is what we needed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and the Dolphins seem to have picked the next Ted Ginn.

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Jakeen Grant who is about 5 foot 5 seems like he's going to be an utter beast at returns.

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Get the ball in his hands and he's gone.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and this is an absolutely perfectly caught perspective picture of him:

http://i.imgur.com/bt4Og3N.jpg

[Gray Fox]

He looks rapid, but he also looks like JJ Watt could eat him for breakfast.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He'd whip out a juke move so strong that Watt's ankles would collapse into a cave of nothingness.

[Dan]

2016's Mr Irrelevant is...Kalan Reed :D

Seems kinda strange that the Titans could've had the first pick in the draft & ended up with the last.

[Gray Fox]

We clawed some picks back and it was defence on top of defence for us late on. This draft kind of hinges on how Wentz turns out I guess as there were still some good players to be had in that 2nd round.

I feel the teams that came out of this the best are the ones that traded down the board and picked up picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

[Browning]

The team that came out of the best is the Jaguars. They got the 2 best players in the draft, assuming Jack can get/stay healthy. With Fowler coming back and them also picking up the top Free Agent they could be beastly.

[Dan]

Jags, Titans & Browns all did pretty well with their picks, I think.

We did a decent job with our few - at least we didn't basically just draft CBs like Carolina.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Baby Gronk has been signed by the Bills.

[Dan]

The Chargers, 49ers, Steelers, Seahawks & Raiders have already been busy grabbing all the UDFA's.

Also Hoyer has signed with the Bears for a year.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

We've given one undrafted guy (a guard) a $10k signing bonus, probably suggests that we expect him to possibly make the team.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Last day for the first rounders from the 2013 draft to have their fifth year exercised. Those who have yet to have the fifth year activated are:

» OT Eric Fisher, Kansas City Chiefs
» OT Luke Joeckel, Jacksonville Jaguars
» DE Ezekiel Ansah, Detroit Lions
» LB Barkevious Mingo, Cleveland Browns
» OG Jonathan Cooper, Arizona Cardinals (Traded to Patriots)
» WR Tavon Austin, Los Angeles Rams
» CB Dee Milliner, New York Jets
» OG Chance Warmack, Tennessee Titans
» CB D.J. Hayden, Oakland Raiders
» LB Jarvis Jones, Pittsburgh Steelers
» S Eric Reid, San Francisco 49ers
» DT Sharrif Floyd, Minnesota Vikings
» CB Xavier Rhodes, Minnesota Vikings
» DE Datone Jones, Green Bay Packers
» DT Sylvester Williams, Denver Broncos
» WR Cordarrelle Patterson, Minnesota Vikings
» LB Alec Ogletree, Los Angeles Rams
» S Matt Elam, Baltimore Ravens

I'd imagine that Ansah, maybe Mingo, Cooper, Austin, Milliner, Warmack, Hayden, Jones, Reid, possibly Floyd, Rhodes, Williams and possibly Ogletree will get their 5th year.

[Gray Fox]

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:facepalm:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

:D

That's stunning.

[Ian]

Denver Post made a point in their draft round-up of saying that Adam Gotsis, the Aussie DT we drafted, is about 300lbs with 10% body fat. Sadly that means nothing to me as I've no idea what body fat percentage a defensive tackle would normally have.

Top stat, lads.

[Giggles]

I'd say that's incredibly low for someone over 21 stone.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's pretty low for someone who is of an average weight.

[Ian]

How does it compare to other athletic guys at his position though? I mean, obviously he's not going to be absorbing entire o-lines on his own like a Vince Wilfork (:cool:) but I don't really know what it means in the grand scheme of things.

Not that it'll mean a thing if he's just plain shit but we'll see.

I am generally happy with what I've read about the guys Denver have drafted though. Wonder if Colquitt's on borrowed time though. Love a reliable punter.

[Foe]

Ansah is a weapon. No way he doesn't get tendered.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Analysts are going mental over the Ravens fourth round, some are even going as far to say it's the best they've ever seen.

They're saying that Tavon Young is the best nickel corner in the draft by far and that we've got solid players in Chris Moore, Alex Lewis, Willie Henry and Kenneth Dixon.

[Ian]

Even by the standards of NFL coverage "best fourth round ever" is some premium bullshit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That's what makes the NFL so good.

[Foe]

I particularly enjoy grading drafts before a single scrimmage of football in training camp has been played.

Mental.

[Giggles]

I'm hoping there's a top 10 fourth rounds of all time list.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It doesn't matter, the Ravens class of 2016 will be at the top.

The NFL off-season is so fucking long :( I hate this waiting game with fuck all happening and bullshit floating about.

[Gray Fox]

Did the humongous tight end get drafted in the end?

In other news I got my Nike Elite Murray jersey the other day. They were going for $300 but the US NFLstore had them reduced down to $20. I had to pay $25 shipping and a tiny bit of tax on top but got it for $49 in total. If I bought one at full price it comes to $387 including shipping and tax. So essentially I got a shirt that would cost £266 for £34.

The double stitching on the numbers is pretty damn good. The numbers/letters seem to pop off the shirt a bit too. It's also more of a snug fit around the chest. That flywire or whatever they call it in the collar does nothing other than aesthetically though. The stitched on team badge does look loads better than the printed on version.
I'm not sure I could justify spending full price on one though. The Limited jerseys come in at half the price at $150 and seem to have most of the above features except for single stitched numbers/letters. The Elite one is fantastic, I just don't think I could ever pay full price for one.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Sadly not.

[Gray Fox]

I've just worn that shirt for the first time today and it's warn so I've been sweating in it. It looks like the black dye of the shirt has come through the white numbers.

Kind of disappointing for what's supposed to be a $300 shirt. I'm hoping it comes out in a wash but I doubt it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jordan Reed has been given a 5 year, $50m deal.

Important that they locked him up, especially considering the numbers NFL have put up:

Cousins with Reed on the field: 421 pass plays, 7.7 pass yards per attempt, 24-4 TD-to-INT ratio, 111.9 passer rating.
Cousins without Reed on the field: 148 pass plays, 6.2 pass yards per attempt, 5-7 TD-to-INT ratio, 73.3 passer rating.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ravens have already lost a player for next year.

Jumal Rolle who got some game time after all our injuries at corner last year has torn his Achilles.

Starting early this year, fun times.

[Gray Fox]

I've checked with the bookies and the consensus is that the Seahawks are early favourites for the coming season.

Even with that you can get odds of 7/1 on them. The Steelers look like the team for me and you can get about 12/1 on them. Or if you fancy an outside bet you can have the Colts(22/1), Chiefs(25/1) or the Ravens at 30/1.

I'm personally thinking a Packers v Steelers superbowl but it's way to early to be 100% sure on it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'll be putting, at the very least, £10 on us.

If we aren't decimated by injuries we could be pretty damn strong.

[Gray Fox]

I'll be sticking some money on the Ravens, Steelers and probably one other.

Eagles being 50/1 but not even I am that optimistic.

[Browning]

The Jaguars would be a better bet than the Ravens at this point.

[wullie]

I'm going on Bills to make the Conference game. One day that'll pay off.

[Browning]

Probably next year when they can bring back the juice to improve their back field.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Jaguars would be a better bet than the Ravens at this point.

I wouldn't say they are a better bet, at the end of the day they've only been involved in 11 playoff games and haven't been there since the 2007 season. They've won 5 and lost 6 compared to the Ravens record of 15 wins, 8 losses and 2 Super Bowl wins.

They do have a nice looking squad though and I will be putting a nibble on them with a view to cashing out.

[Giggles]

In the NFL especially, history isn't a big factor.